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Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

bluehigh — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:58:51 -0000

Put your money on the table, GoatGuy.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

bluehigh — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:50:41 -0000

I 'll take the bet also. I'm in for $10 but I'm with nextbigfuture. Dr Mills will get a nobel prize or two. If the skeptics took the time to read through the documentation on CQM they would find other replicable experiments that demonstrate a 'fifth force' and a whole new range of chemical compounds. I'll bet that not only does the generation of excess thermal energy occur but that also large sections (if not all) of CQM is correct. The hyberbolic electron experiments are described in detail so you can go test them yourself.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

nextbigfuture — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:30:37 -0000

Ok, so DODanimal you are taking the bet under the same terms as Mercy. I am putting up $10 and you are putting up $100. There probably should some exchange of real names and contacts and the arrangement/designation of 3rd party arbitration to settle the bet. Plus we should nail down the specifics.

Another aspect will be that I will formulate a posting announcing the bets sometime this month and then will post sometime late in 2009 or in 2010 to cover the status and especially a conclusion and settlement.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

$183115 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:31:36 -0000

I'll take the bet, too.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

$183115 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:22:52 -0000

The link to the 1999 archived BLP website was great. It really puts things into perspective. Specifically, the proper perspective is that BLP has been making remarkable, unsubstantiated claims for many years, and has yet to deliver.

I think Mills may have started out really believing his theories. But it probably dawned on him at some point that it wasnt working. His MD degree is now all but worthless, so the only way he can make a living is to peddle BLP stock to gullible investors.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

nextbigfuture — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:26:48 -0000

It is agreed. I accept the general terms of the bet. Settlement on Jan 1, 2011 or earlier if the commercialization occurs. My $10 to your $100. It seems likely that the divergence of whether this works or does work should be clear, but there should be some detailed terms to ensure it is obvious who the winner is in the event of some kind of ambiguity.

In particular the provability and evidence necessary for commercial sales. There could be aspects about the business model chosen (still unknown) which could raise questions. There also needs to be a third party designated as the adjudicator in the event of dispute. there may also be details in regards to settlement.

There is a lot of media coverage now. CNN Money, NY Times, Venture Beat. We could allow a publishing of sales initiated by those media outlets to determine the status of the bet. The assumption being that clear success or failure would be published or announced in a very public way.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

GoatGuy — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:07:56 -0000

Mills response to Eli's thermodynamics points are themselves interesting: he's countering classical chemical thermodynamics with emperics. Further, he is proposing to have a new catalyst that works 10 times (!!!) more efficienty or productively to produce way more energy.

OK, why is the 10x claim any more juicy than the existing technology? Is it not likely that the existing NaOH doped Ni(R) 'reactant' could actually be cast into a continuous or larger batch venture? Or is this the classic, "we're actively researching version 2.0" ... where 1.0 never quite got to market! Or maybe verion 7.0, where 1,2,3,4,5 & 6 never made it.

Chasing rainbows: how appropriately said. Go check out www.steorn.com - for a mirror example of dead tech. Its a pretty site, it is austere, yet convincing. Note though that it was last updated in 2007 ... when the big pitch fell apart.

Mills is just way more clever at marketing his oil than McCarthy of Steorn. It may well be that Mills is the ultimate innocent: suffering from self-delusion, and working furiously to prove that the delusion is true, while carefully not stepping into those Missouri Cow Pies: "SHOW ME".

GoatGuy

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

nextbigfuture — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:06:21 -0000

And Microsoft delayed the release of Vista for several years and Boeing had to delay their new passenger jet for a few years. Airbus had multi-year delays as well. Carbon nanotube NRAM has been delayed for years too.

We will not settle this now. But I am willing to put $100 on a bet of some BLP product release by the end of 2010. At least 1 MW by the end of 2010. Apparently this would be easy money for a skeptic to scoop. Could also arrange to set something up for the minimum bet on the Long Now Bets. That money goes to charity instead of the winner.

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

enantiomer2000 — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:53:30 -0000

When GoatGuy actually analyzes the data and comes up with calculations that show that BlackLight is wrong. All he has done so far is express skepticism. I am not criticizing skepticism. He should be skeptical with the incredible claims they are making. Kudos to you GoatGuy!

Re: Blacklight Power Response to Eli Rabett

Brock — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:27:17 -0000

But when will Mills respond to GoatGuy!?!?!? :-)